Comments on: Sex and the City Part II: they’re really just gay men http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/ this is not blogging; this is typing Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: gifted typist http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/comment-page-1/#comment-4159 gifted typist Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:39:36 +0000 http://www.giftedtypist.com/?p=515#comment-4159 Ben, Bayers Lake on the weekend - zoiks! - I was there too and I came back in a foul mood too thanks BeckEye, no one has as much sex as Samantha does Ben, Bayers Lake on the weekend – zoiks! – I was there too and I came back in a foul mood too
thanks

BeckEye, no one has as much sex as Samantha does

]]> By: Ben http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/comment-page-1/#comment-4156 Ben Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:45:06 +0000 http://www.giftedtypist.com/?p=515#comment-4156 I think the moral of the story is that based on the "cool"-factor of the SATC lifestyle, there are plenty of people both men and women who would surely LOVE to identify with the characters. Whether they actually do (hard to believe in a small, not-so-designer-filled city like Halifax), remains to be seen. Thanks for clearing it up, and don't mind my Bayers-Lake-on-a-weekend induced crankiness. I think the moral of the story is that based on the “cool”-factor of the SATC lifestyle, there are plenty of people both men and women who would surely LOVE to identify with the characters. Whether they actually do (hard to believe in a small, not-so-designer-filled city like Halifax), remains to be seen.

Thanks for clearing it up, and don’t mind my Bayers-Lake-on-a-weekend induced crankiness.

]]> By: BeckEye http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/comment-page-1/#comment-4154 BeckEye Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:18:12 +0000 http://www.giftedtypist.com/?p=515#comment-4154 I live with a gay man and he doesn't even have as much sex as these chicks do. There aren't THAT many NORMAL single men in this city - gay or straight. I live with a gay man and he doesn’t even have as much sex as these chicks do. There aren’t THAT many NORMAL single men in this city – gay or straight.

]]> By: gifted typist http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/comment-page-1/#comment-4152 gifted typist Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:44:44 +0000 http://www.giftedtypist.com/?p=515#comment-4152 This observation is based conservations with a very sharp gay male friend who watched the show and who's gay male friends watched the show, partly because they saw themselves in the characters. They actually identified with each character as some women to. So and so is Carrie or Miranda. My friend isn't a slut, nor are all of his friends. All the girls in the show aren't either. There's the career woman, the old-fashioned prude and the writer and, of course, the slutty PR exec. The comparison isn't as much about sexual behaviour as it is contemporary urban lifestyle, relationships, socializing and consumer behaviours which have resonance with certain urban gay males who are liberated from the shackles of old prejudice whether based sexuality or gender based. This observation is based conservations with a very sharp gay male friend who watched the show and who’s gay male friends watched the show, partly because they saw themselves in the characters. They actually identified with each character as some women to. So and so is Carrie or Miranda.

My friend isn’t a slut, nor are all of his friends. All the girls in the show aren’t either. There’s the career woman, the old-fashioned prude and the writer and, of course, the slutty PR exec.

The comparison isn’t as much about sexual behaviour as it is contemporary urban lifestyle, relationships, socializing and consumer behaviours which have resonance with certain urban gay males who are liberated from the shackles of old prejudice whether based sexuality or gender based.

]]> By: Ben http://www.giftedtypist.com/2008/06/08/sex-and-the-city-part-ii-theyre-really-just-gay-men/comment-page-1/#comment-4151 Ben Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:51:35 +0000 http://www.giftedtypist.com/?p=515#comment-4151 "It’s always struck me that the show is a more accurate a portrayal of gay men than urban women." - (Based on what exactly?) As with any sweeping statement, there are bound to be some people upset. I'm not going to be one of those nasty complainers but I will say that I don't think it's fair to simply assume that the sluttiness of four television characters is based on the widely-assumed sluttiness of gay men. As there certainly are slutty gay men, there have also been slutty women (yes, even PRE-SATC), and slutty straight guys. Given your argument, does it really matter whether the writer created a new stereotype of promiscuous, designer-hungry, urbanite women, or wrote a series based on an existing stereotype of gay men? Either way but it's all furthering stereotypes, isn't it? “It’s always struck me that the show is a more accurate a portrayal of gay men than urban women.” – (Based on what exactly?)

As with any sweeping statement, there are bound to be some people upset. I’m not going to be one of those nasty complainers but I will say that I don’t think it’s fair to simply assume that the sluttiness of four television characters is based on the widely-assumed sluttiness of gay men.

As there certainly are slutty gay men, there have also been slutty women (yes, even PRE-SATC), and slutty straight guys. Given your argument, does it really matter whether the writer created a new stereotype of promiscuous, designer-hungry, urbanite women, or wrote a series based on an existing stereotype of gay men?

Either way but it’s all furthering stereotypes, isn’t it?

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